1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Whoa! What was that? 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,000 I saw something just boom real quick across the sky. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,000 We need a much larger rocket that can go up through the triangle 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 and multiple very large lasers. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 You are proposing something on a grand scale. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 There it goes. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Oh, my God. Travis, you got to see this. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 And gone. It disappeared. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 What did it disappear into? 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Are we seeing portals open? 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 There is a ranch in northern Utah. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 It is considered the epicenter of the strangest 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,000 and most disturbing phenomena on Earth. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Animal mutilations, 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 bizarre UFO sightings, 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,000 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,000 For 20 years, the federal government tried to find answers and failed. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Now, a new team of dedicated scientists, 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,000 researchers, and experts has taken over. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:13,000 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,000 the secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Hey, Pete. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Hey. 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Yeah, it's good to have you back. 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Can't wait to see what you're packing this time. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 How's it going? 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 We've had the most incredible year yet, 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 investigating and stimulating all kinds of strange phenomena on Skinwalker Ranch. 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 But the weather is about to turn really harsh as fall sets in, 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,000 meaning that we're out of time to conduct any more large-scale research 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 and experiments. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 I brought some goodies. 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 You can do photogrammetry. 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Now, that's good. 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,000 So we invited technologist Pete Kelsey back to perform a final high-tech 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 3D photogrammetry drone scan of the entire ranch. 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Well, I'm excited to have you out here. 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 It'd be great to take you back to the Mesa. 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Let's go. All right, let's do it. 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Photogrammetry is a process where thousands of high-definition photographs 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:26,000 are taken of an area of interest and combined to create a detailed three-dimensional map, 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 potentially revealing features that aren't visible to the naked eye. 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 All right, here's good. All right. 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Before we have to put our investigation on hold until next year, 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 we want to get a 3D model of every part of the ranch to see if any anomalies appear. 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 If something shows up, maybe it will help us determine what is behind all the UAPs 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 and the other phenomena that we documented here. 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 This looks great. 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Well, start getting set up and let's do this thing. 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Okay. 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Pete Kelsey has brought on some of the most advanced technology one can get his hands on. 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Have a matching set? 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Okay, sure. 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Thank you. 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:12,000 This drone is a robotic flying platform that has exquisite spatial awareness. 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:19,000 That very precise positional awareness is essential for reconstructing an accurate three-dimensional model of the property. 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,000 We're interested to find out whether the results will bear out anything anomalous. 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Well, I'm ready when you guys are. 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Great. 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 We need to get back to the command center to work on some stuff. 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Maybe we'll just leave you to go at it. 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Yeah, I've got all my stuff here, so I'll just have at it. 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Okay. 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Well, if it's all right with you, I'll stick around. 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,000 I don't like leaving guests out here by themselves, so if you're okay with some company, I'll stay with you. 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 I appreciate it. 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Okay. 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Happy to. 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 I will load them head back. 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:04:03,000 So once all the data I have collected is post-processed in a nice neat package, I hand that to Eric and he does the heavy lifting and that is spending hours and hours going through this data because it's all visual. 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 All right. 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:13,000 I got all green lights here spinning up. 73 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Literally, it comes down to putting eyes on the model and looking for anything interesting. 74 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Have a look. 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 So cool. 76 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:30,000 I'm so bad at this. 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:45,000 While Pete was conducting his photogrammetry scan of the ranch, I went to my trailer to have a video conference with author and renowned astronomer, Seth Shostak. 78 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Hello, Seth. 79 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 How you doing? 80 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Travis, good to see you. 81 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,000 It's been a while. 82 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 I wanted to catch up with you. 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Now, Seth is a senior astronomer for the Institute known as SETI, which stands for the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:09,000 I wanted to talk to him about the mysterious 1.6 gigahertz signal that we've been detecting on the ranch, which I believe could be some kind of communication signal. 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:17,000 As you know, I'm out here as part of this investigation of Skinwalker Ranch and we're actually finding some really weird stuff. 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:26,000 We're finding optical phenomena and all sorts of different regimes of energy and even a strange RF signal at 1.6 gigahertz. 87 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:44,000 And what I wanted to ask you is if I found a signal that I thought was an intelligent communication, what protocols SETI would use in a situation like that to start, you know, verifying, validating and reporting? 88 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Well, there is a protocol. 89 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,000 In fact, I was the chair of the committee that revised those protocols about five years ago. 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:58,000 The first thing is if you pick up a signal that you think might be E.T., you want to make sure it isn't a telecommunication satellite. 91 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,000 It isn't a radar down at a local airport or anything like that. 92 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 The second thing you do is you tell everybody. 93 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:11,000 You would want to do that because you want people at other facilities to check out the signal, too. 94 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,000 I see. 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 So let me ask you a question. 96 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Say we have confirmed an optical signal and it's repeatable. 97 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:36,000 If you go through the process and you rule out all of the potential logical culprits, the microwave oven, an airplane, a satellite, you know, those types of things, what would be your next step in verifying? 98 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Well, as I say, you're really critically dependent on being able to verify the signal at some other facility. 99 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 So you would insist on trying to get somewhere else. 100 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Right. 101 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 All right, Eric, she's about to broadcast it. 102 00:06:50,000 --> 00:07:04,000 SETS' suggestion that we would want confirmation of the 1.6 gigahertz communication signal at another location struck me because that's exactly what happened a month ago at the Jack FM radio station about 11 miles north of Skinwalker Ranch. 103 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:16,000 After the station manager and DJ, Jen Rook, told me and Eric that the same kind of signal had infiltrated their airwaves, we decided to see what would happen if she broadcast it back out. 104 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 There it is. 105 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Wow, it really changed her waveform big time. 106 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Well, the next day, Jim Moore showed us some incredible videos of UAPs that were recorded by people in the area later that night. 107 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Jim, when was this video taken? 108 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Last night, about 8 p.m. 109 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Really? 110 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 That's just a few hours after we played that sound on the radio. 111 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 No kidding. 112 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Well, it sounds as if the signal you're picking up is generated locally, right? 113 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 That there's something in your immediate area that is producing this signal. 114 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Is that kind of what you're suggesting here? 115 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Yep. 116 00:07:52,000 --> 00:08:04,000 So imagine, you know, advanced civilization wanted to communicate in real time what type of phenomenology or telltale signs might SETI look for. 117 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,000 If it's really coming from another society, it would be in one direction. 118 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:15,000 And that's kind of the clue that you would see it coming from that direction on the sky. 119 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I think that's exactly what I wanted to hear, Seth. 120 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:30,000 It was interesting how Seth, a highly accredited scientist who researches the potential for ET life, believed the type of communication signal we detected would come from a specific direction because that's exactly what happened on the ranch. 121 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Go back the other way. 122 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Five weeks ago, when we detected the 1.6 gigahertz signal, it came from a specific spot. 123 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Wait, it's coming back. 124 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Oh, right there. 125 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Right there. 126 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Stop. 127 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Where we had just launched a rocket near Homestead 2. 128 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 So it's very directional? 129 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Yeah. 130 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Are you kidding me? 131 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:52,000 And then later that night, Eric recorded an incredible UAP moving around the Homestead. 132 00:08:52,000 --> 00:09:03,000 We can't be sure if that communication signal we detected was what led to the UAP appearing or if it represents more evidence that portals could really exist on Skinwalker Ranch. 133 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,000 But talking with Seth just makes me more convinced that we are getting closer to some answers. 134 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 That helps me a lot. 135 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 I really appreciate it. 136 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Well, anytime, Travis, you know, it's always my pleasure to speak with you. 137 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Yeah, me too, man. 138 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:21,000 If we do find something and we need to get someone out here to verify, I'll give you a call. 139 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Thanks, Travis. 140 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Uh-huh. 141 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Bye-bye. 142 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Howdy, Eric. 143 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Hey. 144 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 What's up, man? 145 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 How's it going, Eric? 146 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 That's a pretty picture of the Mesa you guys are here. 147 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Oh, you are here. 148 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 You are going to enjoy this. 149 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:49,000 The day after Pete Kelsey conducted his photogrammetry scan of the ranch, he sent Eric all of his compiled data files for us to review. 150 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Well, I've got only about a billion data points. 151 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Of course, this comes out of Pete Kelsey's recent survey work. 152 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,000 This is a three-dimensional model. 153 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 It's point cloud data. 154 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:10,000 What it is is individual points that have been located through a complex algorithm coming out of all these thousands of pictures that he's taken. 155 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 So you take all those images, you stitch them together, and you get a three-dimensional model. 156 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 That's incredible. 157 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Oh, yeah. 158 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Yeah, so I've been diving into this, and it turns out there are some very interesting artifacts showing up. 159 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Whoa. 160 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 You might... 161 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 I just saw one. 162 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Did you see it? 163 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Yeah. 164 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Okay. 165 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 In the sky. 166 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Oh, yes. 167 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 Oh, weird. 168 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Yes. 169 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 That looks like that's a whole bunch of points right there. 170 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Oh, it is. 171 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Well, what would cause it to do that if that's up in the air? 172 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 That's the question. 173 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Look at this structure. 174 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 This phantom structure that's sticking up in the sky. 175 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 This is odd. 176 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 I gotta tell you, uh... 177 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 There it is. 178 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Wow, I think it was really prominent from here. 179 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,000 It's like it's a... 180 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Yeah. 181 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Some sort of big feature. 182 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 It looks more than 100 feet in here. 183 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 That's nuts. 184 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,000 One way of interpreting this is to say that the drone did not 185 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,000 properly register its correct GPS position when it took the pictures. 186 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Were you thinking that? 187 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,000 I was about to suggest that we've had such trouble with those drones and their GPS coordinates being spoofed, 188 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 hacked, or jammed. 189 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Yes. 190 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 What if it thought it was somewhere else when it took those pictures? 191 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 But you got tens of... 192 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Correct. 193 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 ...positions that should cancel itself out. 194 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Well, you'd have to have a lingering condition in that space that causes some sort of displacement, 195 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 some phantom displacement of the reckoned position, 196 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 the measured position of the drone in the sky. 197 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,000 What's so strange here is, if the GPS was being spoofed for the whole survey, 198 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 the final photogrammetry image would be a big blur. 199 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 That's not what's happening at all. 200 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,000 This one specific spot over the ranch is confusing the photogrammetry data 201 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 and confusing it from a number of different angles, 202 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:07,000 which makes me think there's something really strange about this particular area. 203 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Another interpretation might be if you did have some kind of translucent effect or object in the sky, 204 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,000 then I suppose it might also cause the algorithm to perceive those pixels 205 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,000 whose color comes from the ground as being somewhere else up in the air. 206 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Has Pete seen this before? 207 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Did you ask him? 208 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 That's the other important point. 209 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,000 I've connected with Pete and I've also spoken with the vendor of this software 210 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 asking, is this common? 211 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 And the answer that I've gotten is no. 212 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Really? 213 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,000 This is not a common thing in terrestrial surveys like this. 214 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Are there any other areas in his survey that had this sort of artifact to them? 215 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Yes. 216 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,000 I want to show you something at another location that we've visited that is part of this survey. 217 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Okay. 218 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Okay. 219 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 This is right above the petroglyph area, right? 220 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Yes, it is. 221 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Just on the edge of our property. 222 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Right. 223 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 And you'll recognize the stone circle here. 224 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Yep. 225 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,000 And the feature that I want to show you is actually very close to this stone circle. 226 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Oh, there you go. 227 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 There you go. 228 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 There you go. 229 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 So let me spin us around. 230 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 I noticed a couple of things here. 231 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Wow, now look at this. 232 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 And you may observe the same thing I have. 233 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,000 So line those two up and where are they pointing? 234 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:37,000 This feature, this artifact, the largest stone that was part of the stone circle 235 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 and that prominent thing that's jetting up, you know, further to the south. 236 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 See, you have three points in a line. 237 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 Wow. 238 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Interestingly and somewhat mysteriously, the anomalies to the south and to the north of the stone circle 239 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:59,000 align perfectly with that large center stone in the stone circle itself. 240 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Could be a coincidence, but it sure is suggestive. 241 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 What are the odds of that? 242 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Right. 243 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,000 We've learned not to ignore any anomalous features in our data, even if we have no idea what to make of them. 244 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:19,000 So that to me seems like you've almost drawn a ray from the other anomaly through this stone to this anomaly. 245 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,000 We've got a line being drawn here. 246 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Then what is that line pointing to? 247 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 What is the line there for? 248 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:33,000 We need to mark these spots because, you know, what if this is somehow mapping an anomaly that we need to investigate? 249 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 You remember last year when we had that expert out? 250 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 He said that the petroglyph was depicting a portal. 251 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 So, I mean, we're getting way out there. 252 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:51,000 That pillar's alignment with it kind of looks like in the data points, a spiraling thing, a portal type feature. 253 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 That's interesting. 254 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Last year, we had Dr. Alan Garfinkel come out to examine some petroglyphs we had discovered on the east side of the property, 255 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,000 right by the location of this strange aerial anomaly that we're seeing. 256 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 What I'm looking at is these curves. 257 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 It's a metaphor for a serpent or a snake. 258 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Snakes represents two different worlds. 259 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 So it's a guardian to the portals. 260 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 The portal is a window into the supernatural. 261 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Dragon is right about the petroglyphs near this area. 262 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:30,000 But this strange structure in Pete's photogrammetry data is right above a mysterious spiral of boulders on the mason. 263 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 I'm thinking there's definitely something here. 264 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:46,000 And earlier this year, Navajo expert and historian John Dover told us this feature may have been constructed by ancient indigenous people to represent a very specific phenomenon. 265 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Looking at this place in its entirety, it struck me as a holy place. 266 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:59,000 We have basically a spiral right here that's been put into this ground here. 267 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:05,000 That spiral is indicative of a portal, a dimensional rip, an opening. 268 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 We have so much data pointing that there's something up in the sky going on. 269 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:19,000 And I honestly, I'm not so sure that that petroglyph isn't telling us that there's something in the sky over the ranch, you know, because that's what it looks like. 270 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Could Pete Kelsey have actually captured visual evidence that there really are portals on Skinwalker Ranch? 271 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,000 And could it help explain why we see UAPs appear and then suddenly disappear? 272 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Well, we owe it to ourselves to follow up on every data anomaly that we come across, particularly when they're as prominent as the ones we're looking at. 273 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Eric, the data is absolutely fascinating. 274 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 We need to meet with Brandon and review this and everything else we've learned this year. 275 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,000 I think we just got to do that, follow up on this data. 276 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Yep, let's do it. 277 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Greetings, everyone. 278 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:09,000 I think everyone would agree this past year has been the most productive year in history relative to the investigation at Skinwalker Ranch. 279 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,000 We launched this phase of the investigation with former Governor Herbert. 280 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:26,000 His interest and ongoing engagement with this effort has been an important part of really elevating the formality of this research and how important it is to us. 281 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:41,000 We also have joining us today investigative journalist George Knapp, best known as the leading journalist documenting the reality of not only the ranch, but this type of phenomena. 282 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,000 I'd like to say, Governor, by the way, you have a really beautiful state, but it's an awfully weird state. 283 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:54,000 I think today will be a very eye-opening day and briefing for our guests. 284 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Well, I'm so excited to hear what you have to tell me and learn from what's taking place. 285 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 I think it's not only important for you to find out what's happening within our borders, by the way, but for America and the world. 286 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,000 And so what it leads us to, who knows, but I think it's important we find out. 287 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Yes, absolutely. 288 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,000 I think the best thing to do would be to, let's just start. 289 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:20,000 We've done so many experiments, captured so much video, so much measurement data of unidentified aerial phenomena. 290 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:31,000 We've seen so many this summer with the various experiments that we've done and so many witnesses and instruments capturing them that it's undeniable that that's what we have captured. 291 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 I do have footage that I can share. 292 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 I'm going to go ahead and play it in real time. 293 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,000 We had just launched a rocket over Homestead 2, and fortunately we did have a camera looking in that direction. 294 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Wow. 295 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000 It's unbelievable. 296 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 We saw so many this summer. 297 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,000 I don't know that I could remember accurately and go back and count how many there's been. 298 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:07,000 The experiments we conducted this year led to some of the most compelling and confounding UAP incidents ever documented on Skinwalker Range. 299 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Thank you. 300 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Using rockets and digging to stimulate the activity. 301 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Whoa, what was that? 302 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 UAPs appeared numerous times at Homestead 2. 303 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Hey look, UAP right there. 304 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Yep, I see it. 305 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 And above the Triangle Area. 306 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 Look at this guy y'all. 307 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:34,000 We've seen a lot of unidentified aerial phenomena, some that I would say even qualify as unidentified flying objects. 308 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Eric, if you want to show them what it is that we saw. 309 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:45,000 You'll notice this bright object at the center moving in a peculiar way and exhibiting some peculiar characteristics. 310 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:54,000 This object, whatever it is, appears brighter than Jupiter. 311 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 It's clearly moving. 312 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Yeah, and it's moving in a different way than a satellite would be moving. 313 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:13,000 There was no air traffic in the area and you see no navigation lights and it actually came toward us and then it made it a dog leg maneuver and then turned to the east. 314 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:19,000 We all saw with the naked eye this thing, I mean for lack of a better term it looked almost like a flying donut. 315 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,000 I mean it was bright and then it had a defined dark center to it. 316 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:34,000 This is a solid structure, was captured from multiple camera viewpoints and had eye witnesses both on and off the ranch. 317 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,000 It looks like they're structured to it and large enough and bright enough that you can see with the naked eye. 318 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Yeah, easily. 319 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Sure. 320 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,000 This one is the one that I would say is not a UAP, that it's a UFO. 321 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:56,000 And Eric has captured an odd sound emanating from the ranch and we see it almost every time one of these phenomena occur. 322 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, it's here. 323 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000 We've got that 1.6 thing. 324 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Eric, are you doing something at 1.6? 325 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 I'm not broadcasting. 326 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 I swear that sounds like a communication signal. 327 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000 We see this 1.6 or so gigahertz signal. 328 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:21,000 At times when we don't have eyes on any kind of UAP, there's just some other activity as part of our investigation going on. 329 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 For example, drilling, digging. 330 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Could this be a fingerprint or at least a trace evidence of the technology that is being utilized? 331 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:37,000 That is a possible speculation Brandon, but I would say it's one of those correlations that we haven't proved that they're definitively tied to each other. 332 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 But the statistics are really getting hard to ignore. 333 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,000 I've heard these stories about people that pick up radio stations on their fillings in their teeth over the years. 334 00:21:46,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Coming back to the idea of frequencies, Louis Alouzando, who headed the ATEP program, has indicated that there is a frequency that they have studied that pops up again and again in these military encounters with what we'd call UAP or UFOs. 335 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:12,000 I can tell you definitively that the UAPX guys, they told us specifically that they were looking for microwaves, so I told them, just look between 1 and 3 gigahertz. 336 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:20,000 And they came back to us and said, we had a sighting the other night and you were right, we picked up something at 1.6 gigahertz and this was in California. 337 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Wow. 338 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,000 So it seems that this 1.6 gigahertz is somehow connected to these sightings. 339 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Yeah. 340 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Well, there's some kind of electromagnetic effects. 341 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 It's always been associated with the ranch. 342 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 When you think you're ready to document it, it goes somewhere else. 343 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000 It plays tricks on you. 344 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Compasses spin. 345 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000 Batteries die. 346 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Vehicles crap out. 347 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Cameras go off-off-line. 348 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:49,000 And whatever this force is, whatever the source of the intelligence, it shows you that it's in charge. 349 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:59,000 It reminds me of this recent experience with Dragon and Tom Lewis. 350 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:09,000 I think it's important for Governor Herbert to hear of your most recent experience that literally brought you to your knees. 351 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:20,000 Yeah, it was probably, well, probably the scariest moment, you know, personally. 352 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000 I know it was for you. 353 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Definitely. 354 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Obviously, Tom. 355 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Yeah, so this day we were drilling. 356 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Dragon had this idea, maybe we should go check out Homestead 2, see if there's any weird readings happening there. 357 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,000 We go down to Homestead 2. 358 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Everything seems normal. 359 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 We took the instruments. 360 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,000 We'll see if anything strange pops up and keep in touch with them. 361 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Yeah. 362 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000 This dug-on thing is broadcasting. 363 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000 This thing shouldn't be broadcasting anything. 364 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Hey, Bryant, Tom, you copy? 365 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,000 Yeah, I got you. 366 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Go ahead, Eric. 367 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Eric, him on the walkie, said, listen to this sound. 368 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:10,000 RF Spectrum Analyzer, which is a receiver, it seems to be broadcasting instead of just receiving. 369 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 We'll just have a listen at this. 370 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,000 That sound that was broadcast over the radio was a set of beeps. 371 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,000 I heard static in like a roaring train. 372 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Are you okay? 373 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 No. 374 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 My eyes went black. 375 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,000 I couldn't see. 376 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Like you went blind? 377 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Yeah, I was a little bit conscious still. 378 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,000 And so I dropped to the ground and my whole left arm was numb. 379 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 And so at this point, I'm scared. 380 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 I'm thinking I'm having a heart attack. 381 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,000 It was, I could feel him physically shaking. 382 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,000 He's in distress. 383 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 It was all I could do to get him to my truck. 384 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000 You want to go? 385 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Yeah, let's go. 386 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000 I can't feel my hand. 387 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 You can't feel your hand? 388 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 I can't feel my hand. 389 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Do you have any chest pains? 390 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 No, but it's hard to keep my breath. 391 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,000 And my vision really didn't come back until I was off the ranch. 392 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Luckily, Bryant was there to help me. 393 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,000 And what had happened is my heart was skipping beats. 394 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:32,000 And I had had EKGs before this and I've never had this issue before. 395 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:39,000 And the doctor explained to me that it's, you know, there's nothing wrong with my heart, 396 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 but it was an electrical problem. 397 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Really? 398 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000 And yeah. 399 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Fortunately, you know, he's okay. 400 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000 But I mean, that's, that's the strange thing is it affects people so differently 401 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 and people are tuned to whatever energy or frequency. 402 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:01,000 But what I find, you know, interesting and also disturbing is it occurred like literally right when 403 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:07,000 we were hitting the base of the Mesa where we were trying to see what in the world is inside that Mesa. 404 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000 And that's when all hell broke loose. 405 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Which leads me to think about this material that we pulled out of one hole while we were drilling 406 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 into the side of the Mesa. 407 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Boy, that thing sounds like it's hitting something hard. 408 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 What the heck is... 409 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,000 In an effort to explore a possible tunnel or cave system beneath the Mesa, 410 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,000 we brought in drilling expert Aaron Blunt, who attempted to drill horizontally into the Mesa. 411 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,000 That's when his drill bit encountered something hard and seemingly impenetrable. 412 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 We're coming up about 11 inches every 10 feet. 413 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 So it sounds like you're describing kind of a V. 414 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Yeah, it could even be. Maybe a dome. 415 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Not only was this hard object dome shaped. 416 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 What is that? 417 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,000 It also appeared to be 400 feet wide and made out of metal. 418 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Oh my. 419 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,000 What do you think it was when you first saw it? 420 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 I wondered if it was like metal flakes or something. 421 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000 That's exactly the same impression I got. 422 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 But the biggest surprise came when we had a piece of the metal analyzed. 423 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,000 There are material findings coming out of that lateral drilling exercise. 424 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Surprising. Completely unexpected. 425 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 I have to show you this. 426 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 I want to put them on the table. 427 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:31,000 So I'm going to pass around a few of the samples of which we have many into the hundreds 428 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 that have been taken out of that, what, 5 or 6 inch diameter hole. 429 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000 We're talking about a 6 inch hole into the mesa. 430 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 We made it back about 420 feet. 431 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000 These started coming out as we were well into the hundreds of feet into the mesa. 432 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,000 But who knows how much of it never came back out of the mountain. 433 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Eric reached out to the local university here and had them do an analysis with a scanning electron microscope 434 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 and do precise elemental analysis make up of this material. 435 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 The interesting thing about the analysis that we got, 436 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,000 tellurium is only on one side and europium which is on the other side. 437 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Now tellurium and europium are two of the most rare materials on the planet and it was fused. 438 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Can that happen naturally? 439 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,000 If it were going to be made on earth, it would have to be done deep under the crust, 440 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,000 miles deep in a geological process. 441 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:40,000 There's no volcanic processes happening there on the ranch or in the U.N.T. basin that we know of. 442 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,000 The only other natural way to create this would be an asteroid impact. 443 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:54,000 But what we're missing from this asteroid is we're missing nickel, we're missing iridium, 444 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,000 we're missing some other things that would be there if it were an asteroid. 445 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:06,000 This bears a lot of resemblance to things that were made in a furnace as if this is perhaps an engineered material. 446 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,000 You remember the space shuttle tiles that protected it from heat on reentry? 447 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000 This material make up is very similar to that ceramic. 448 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:22,000 So Governor Herbert, let me tell you, we did another, probably the biggest, most complicated, most expensive experiment 449 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000 that has ever been done at the ranch. 450 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:42,000 We had three laser systems and we placed them in a triangular position, pointed up at the anomaly in the sky over the ranch. 451 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:50,000 And then we also had a very large rocket system so that we could put a payload into the anomaly and have it linger 452 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,000 as the recovery system brought it back down with multiple instruments. 453 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Now, we get ready to do the launch and Brandon tell me what happened when we counted down and you pushed the button. 454 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,000 The second that I pushed the button, it literally went up and exploded. 455 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Push and hold. 456 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Oh. 457 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 How high did it get off the ground? 458 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Maybe 30 feet. 459 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 So it immediately blew up. 460 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Yeah. 461 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Does this ever happen before? Any of those rockets? 462 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 They've never had one fail like that before. 463 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,000 So it's like somebody was trying to keep us from getting the instruments into the place we want to put it. 464 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:41,000 So think heavens, we are ready with other rockets to continue the experiment. 465 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Do you have that second launch? 466 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,000 So this is in fact the footage of that launch as seen by one of our surveillance cameras. 467 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:59,000 This takes place at exactly the place where we've had so many unusual things happen. 468 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Is that the triangle? 469 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000 That is the triangle. 470 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Yeah. 471 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Eric was in the command center and saw something. 472 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Hey Travis, you copy? 473 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Yeah, Eric, go ahead. 474 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000 If Brandon's nearby, can you bring him in real quick? 475 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000 We'll be right there. 476 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Travis, you got to see this. 477 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Okay. 478 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Well, there's the lasers. 479 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000 Yeah, I'm doing an instant playback. 480 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Can you see this? 481 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Yeah. 482 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Wow. 483 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000 What the crap is that? 484 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:35,000 This is through the lens of a camera that is tasked with surveying the skies. 485 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000 And I'll draw your attention to this part of the screen. 486 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Clearly we have an object, something luminous moving towards the apex of that configuration of lasers being broadcast upward from the triangle. 487 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000 And it just, I mean, it just goes away. 488 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Yeah. 489 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000 Wow. 490 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:07,000 It's important to note that during this day, the entire airspace not only above the ranch, but in the general area within the UNT-Basein was restricted. 491 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Clearly there's no strobe on this, but beyond that, the aircraft transponder data receiver that we have at the ranch indicated no aircraft at that location. 492 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 It's unexplained. 493 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,000 What is the theory of what the explanation could be? 494 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Well, what if some of the stories that we keep hearing about from the ancient native tribes in Petroglyphs, that from all different kinds of folks that have been to the ranch, that there's a portal access on the ranch? 495 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000 What if that's true? 496 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000 It could be what we just saw. 497 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:49,000 This may be a particular point of interest for a wormhole or a stargate, some type of interstellar interaction. 498 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:59,000 One of the stories that's been told from the Sherman and Bigelow era that caught the attention of the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, was about a hole in the sky. 499 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Call it a portal. 500 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000 The rancher would see these things open up. 501 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000 It's dusk here. 502 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000 It's afternoon over there. 503 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000 It's like you're looking in through a hole in the sky to another place. 504 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:18,000 And he would report things coming in and out, craft coming in and out from that reality to this reality. 505 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Well, you just referenced an anecdotal experience, one from a credible scientist, but no visual evidence to accompany that. 506 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Here we have potential visual evidence of some type of interstellar activity focused on the ranch, some type of interaction that is not explained by any conventional means. 507 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 Never seen it before. 508 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000 I've never seen anything like it before. 509 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,000 And Brandon, this next one you have yet to see because it just happened to us. 510 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Really? 511 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Yeah. 512 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 It is so bizarre. 513 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 I think it'd be a good idea to get everyone's eyes on this. 514 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Absolutely. 515 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Let's do it. 516 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,000 This is a three-dimensional model of Pete Kelsey's recent survey work. 517 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Pete scanned the entire Mesa and look at this structure. 518 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Wow. 519 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Incredible. 520 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Wow. 521 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000 This looks like a solid structure in the sky. 522 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Yes. 523 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,000 This object, whatever it is, it's really fascinating. 524 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000 What are we looking at? 525 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 We don't know this point. 526 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Well, we need to talk about the reality of what we're dealing with in this investigation. 527 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Based on all of these combined events, how do we move forward? 528 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:50,000 What are our next steps as a team here at Skinwanker Ranch? 529 00:34:50,000 --> 00:35:03,000 What we can say is perhaps one of the most amazing things about skinwalking that we've 530 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,000 What are our next steps as a team here at Skinwalker Ranch? 531 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,720 What we can say is, perhaps, one of the most amazing treasures 532 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,120 might be under that mesa, but it might also 533 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,320 be amazingly fragile. 534 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560 And we don't want to destroy whatever 535 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,000 it is by Willie Nilly going in and stomping her feet around. 536 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,600 Yeah, and exactly as Travis has explained, 537 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,840 we should probably take a forensic approach 538 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,640 to look at this as a biopsy. 539 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,480 You know, we conduct the research very carefully 540 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,720 because we don't want to destroy the very thing we 541 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,080 are attempting to get eyes on. 542 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,440 So obviously, we can't come in recklessly and blast 543 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,400 the side of the mesa. 544 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,600 Absolutely. 545 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Whatever we do must be surgical, well-planned, and precise. 546 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,000 Is there any way to discover what's 547 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,400 inside the mesa, short of excavation? 548 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,480 Is there some kind of sonar micro-imaging 549 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,320 that you can actually x-ray the mountain? 550 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,080 We have used ground penetrating radar 551 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,720 to the best of our ability right now. 552 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:16,680 We are pursuing some space capabilities that are just now 553 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,960 new technologies coming online, maybe in the next year or so. 554 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,040 You know, there's another thing that we need to follow up on. 555 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,480 We have discovered there is some sort of anomaly 556 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,680 over the ranch in a certain location 557 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,640 that is between 3,000 and 5,000 feet in altitude 558 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,480 above the triangle. 559 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,680 If this is a atmospheric anomaly or gravitational anomaly, 560 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,520 I think we've just got to follow up on this data. 561 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,880 Absolutely. 562 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,600 I think everyone would agree that we 563 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,680 move forward having a multidisciplinary, diverse approach 564 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,760 to really tackling this problem set 565 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:56,280 and taking the data that drives us in the right direction 566 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,720 to uncover the secret of what lies on this ranch, 567 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,560 both above and below. 568 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,240 Well, I mean, here's the significance for me. 569 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:07,760 You guys set up an experiment where 570 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,520 you have witnesses there gathered to conduct this experiment 571 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,040 and hopefully generate a response. 572 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,440 You don't know what the response is going to be. 573 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,160 You don't know if there will be a response. 574 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,400 And you get a response, and you document it. 575 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,920 It appears we are triggering contact in some way, shape, 576 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,480 or form. 577 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,840 And it is manifesting itself above the ranch 578 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,360 in a very profound way. 579 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,840 We're dealing with forces. 580 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,960 We're dealing with phenomena that 581 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,400 redefines not only our vision of reality, 582 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000 but potentially even history itself. 583 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360 Is Skinwalker Ranch really at the center 584 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,360 of a lot of interesting things that are now 585 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,360 being brought forward? 586 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,800 Yes. 587 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,040 But it doesn't seem to be restricted just to Utah. 588 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,880 This is countrywide, worldwide? 589 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,400 Yeah. 590 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Well, for the last four years, the whole world 591 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,880 has been on a UFO binge. 592 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880 We've had major media coverage taking it seriously 593 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,680 for the first time, maybe ever. 594 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,800 Congress has dug in. 595 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,880 They want to fund a permanent investigation, a program that 596 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,360 would look into these things. 597 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,760 And all of this stuff is traced directly back 598 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,160 to Skinwalker Ranch. 599 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,160 If not for a DIA scientist visiting the property back 600 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,800 in 2007 and having an experience, 601 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,920 there would not have been an OSAP program. 602 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,800 There would not have been an ATIP program. 603 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,040 And the whole world would not be on this UFO binge 604 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,960 that it's on right now. 605 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,480 We don't know where it's going to lead. 606 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160 But at least we've dragged it out of the dark ages 607 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,320 and made this topic a little more respectable 608 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,480 for Congress, for media, for scientists to investigate. 609 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,480 It all stems back to the ranch. 610 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,560 Well, Brandon, let me just say, I was here 611 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960 at the beginning 12 weeks ago. 612 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,080 And now I've returned and you're reporting. 613 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,040 And all I can say is the phenomena is just overwhelming. 614 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,640 I'm very excited about the next chapter. 615 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,840 I think you've got momentum. 616 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,000 Again, like Dr. Taylor talking about, 617 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,640 this should be a scalpled approach. 618 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,240 Eric, you've mentioned how we've got 619 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,440 to be careful about what we're doing here 620 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,440 so we don't damage the information we'll find. 621 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,480 Very much so. 622 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,880 You guys have made breakthroughs on so many different bases. 623 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,440 And I can't wait to see what comes next. 624 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,760 Well, thank you, Governor, for your time and attention. 625 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080 And thank you, George, for joining us. 626 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,200 Glad to be here. 627 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,400 I want to thank everyone at this table 628 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,520 for your sacrifice, for your professionalism, 629 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,760 for your talents, your expertise. 630 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,600 We are opening new doors, new paths to explore. 631 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880 I look forward to the path ahead 632 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,160 and we'll be in touch with you regarding next steps. 633 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,080 Thank you. 634 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,160 All right. Thanks, Brandon. 635 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,400 Thank you. 636 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,000 Thank you, Governor. 637 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,800 George, to meet you. 638 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,680 Yeah, yeah. 639 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880 We've learned a lot of things through our work this year. 640 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,640 Piece by piece, we are continuing to assemble this puzzle, 641 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,920 showing us that not only is the ranch phenomenology real, 642 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,040 but we seem to be interactively engaging it. 643 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560 I'm way past the point of no return. 644 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,840 I've had too many things happen to me on the ranch, 645 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,840 not to continue. 646 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680 It seems like the stakes have risen. 647 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,080 So at this point, we have to push forward. 648 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,920 We have to get answers. 649 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,000 I've seen things today that I never thought I would see 650 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,480 and haven't seen before. 651 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,800 But I'd like to think that we can figure it out. 652 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,360 I hope we can. 653 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,040 Here's the thing for sure. 654 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,840 You aren't going to figure it out if you don't try. 655 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,920 As we wrap up this year's investigation 656 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,840 at Skinwalker Ranch, we all feel 657 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,480 like we're getting much closer to finding some real answers 658 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,960 about this place. 659 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,200 I mean, when I first came to the ranch, 660 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,760 I had never even seen a UAP. 661 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,000 We got something. Hold on. 662 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,920 Look, look, look. 663 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,840 What is that? 664 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,000 Holy s***. 665 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,560 But we've witnessed a documented phenomena up in the sky. 666 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,200 What the hell is that in the sky? 667 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,840 That thing is big and spherical. 668 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120 That has changed my entire outlook 669 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,480 on what I thought was possible. 670 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,120 And now, after encountering a dome-shaped metal object deep 671 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,200 inside the mason, who knows what we could ultimately reveal? 672 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,200 Oh, my. 673 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,280 We owe it to ourselves and the entire world 674 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,960 to figure out the truth behind this ranch. 675 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,680 It takes courage to confront these topics. 676 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,560 I believe as we brave that territory, 677 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,120 as we have the courage to delve deeper, 678 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,640 both literally and figuratively, into Skinwalker Ranch, 679 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160 we're going to find that not only will we 680 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,640 come to an understanding of the dark forces 681 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,320 that we're interacting with, but also the nature of our world 682 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,200 and our reality.